The Making of the Captain

Bruno Rezende and Gabi Guimarães know the weight of leading Brazil. Thiaguinho knows the pressure of leading from a different stage. In São Paulo, the three come together over barbecue and music to trace the choices, sacrifices and responsibilities behind careers lived in public. This is a conversation about leadership, performance and national pride across sport and music, and what it takes to keep showing up when others are counting on you. Featuring Thiaguinho.

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